Unsolved Mysteries


 

Forcas: Welcome. I am Forcas Rhende, a graduate of the Bacrum Military Academy and former member of the Valeria Liberation Front. In this section, various phenomena of Tactics Ogre will be explained by the experts.

Mystery #1: For some odd reason when Haborym casts Petrify, the success rate is higher than when anyone else casts it.

Haborym: The reason why my Petrify spells are so accurate is because of my high DEX. If you take the time to notice, my DEX is the highest out of any character in the game as well. I found this out because in battle, I recruited an Archer, and turned her into a Witch (since I had no use for her as an Archer). Now Archers have the highest DEX out of any female class, and as a result, her Stun spells had an accuracy of 75-80% while the enemy was directly facing her. Her INT was lower than a normal Witch's, but her DEX was a good 100 points higher than that of a normal Witch. The increase in accuracy can be explained by the game's definition of DEX--the rate at which physical and magical attacks hit the enemy.

Mystery #2: The whole Loyalty meter thing and how it is affected by your actions.

Byan: I'm Byan Ohwn, former mage of the Valeria Liberation Front. First, let me describe to you the Loyalty scale. Basically, you can tell how loyal someone is by seeing what they say when you click on their name. What someone says depends on two things: their Alignment, and their Loyalty. I'll give you the list of possible sayings for each Alignment, with the saying of highest Loyalty first and in order of decreasing Loyalty:

 

Alignment L
Loyalty Rating	Comments
81-100	Most likely you are trusted. All of your comments and activities are well received.
61-80	This one works actively with the others to make things go easy.
41-60	There are various opinions toward the idea. Most of the opinions are very positive.
31-40	There is not a lot of opposition to the idea, yet there isn't much enthusiasm either.
21-30	More people are becoming critical of the idea...
11-20	More people are expressing opposition towards the idea.
0-10	People will not even look into your eyes. You are losing trust.
1-5	Warning!
0	Disaffection!

 

Alignment N
Loyalty Rating	Comments
81-100	They are completely happy with the idea and accepting it one-hundred percent.
61-80	People are relatively happy with the idea. There is enough communication going on.
41-60	People are not unsatisfied with the idea, yet they don't stop those who criticize it.
31-40	More people are avoiding eye contact. They will not respond to you.
21-30	They seem to have become distant. They look serious.
11-20	Sometimes you get glared at. They might be angry.
0-10	When you call them, they go away...
6-10	Warning!
0-5	Disaffection!

 

Alignment C
Loyalty Rating	Comments
81-100	Not only do they agree with your ideals, they have accepted you as a leader.
61-80	They are positively obeying justice. It is not coming from any selfish motives.
41-60	They don't have any particular complaints but they are not enthusiastic about joining the military.
31-40	Sometimes they express their complaints. It seems like you hit a nerve.
21-30	All they do is complain. They hate you...
11-20	Not only are they complaining about the idea, now they are cussing about it.
0-10	They have a cold look in their eyes. Their words penetrate your heart. They seem to want to kill you...
11-15	Warning!
0-10	Disaffection!

 

L-Sized Characters
Loyalty Rating	Comments
81-100	You go close to it. It purrs. It does not seem to be a dangerous monster.
61-80	Very well tamed. It will become your loyal servant.
41-60	Still has its doubts, but as long as it is full, it is happy.
21-40	When you go close to it, it backs off. It is not tame.
0-20	It is showing its obvious hatred towards you. It can attack you at any time.

 

Inital Loyalty of Special Characters
Chapter One
Vice (guest) 75	Kachua (guest) 45	Lans (guest) 100	Warren (guest) 100	Mildain (guest) 100
Guildus (guest) 100	Canopus 100 (guest) 65	Sara 65	Voltel 75	Presance 72
Felicia 85			Leonard 95
Chapter Two
Characters available in the Law Route are written in green text. Characters available in the Chaos Route are written in brown text.
Aloser 75	Sisteena 50	Byan 48	Forcas 65	Zapan 37
Chapter Three
Characters available only in the Law Route are written in green text. Characters available only in the Neutral Route are written in purple text. Characters available only in the Chaos Route are written in brown text. Guildus is only available in the Law and Chaos Routes. If you recruit Haborym at Fort Kadoriga after saving Festa, Tamuzu, and Kamos, his Loyalty will be only 6. If you skip that event and head straight to Ashton for the events there, you can return to Griate later and recruit him, in which case his Loyalty will be 66.
Haborym 66	Mildain 85	Guildus 85	Selye 75	Festa 75
Tamuzu 89	Kamos 64	Haborym 6	Orias 52	Debordes 74
Jenounes 60	Vice 65	Payton 54	Beilev 76	Apsala 88
Chapter Four
Characters available only in the Law Route are written in green text. Characters available only in the Neutral Route are written in purple text.
Olivia 80	Shelley 80	Kachua (Princess) 100	Rendal 55	Ganb 45
Belda Jr 75	Obda Jr 69	Radlum 48	Deneb 35	Oxyones 78
Cloud 69	Shadow 71	Typhoon 80	ClearSky 92	Zapan 37
Selye 75			Erig 75

 

Byan: Now I'll bet you're wondering how and why the Loyalty meter changes during the game.
One reason is by your various responses to different scenes in the game, such as the Baramus massacre. If you go along with the plan, the L peoples' Loyalty meter will go up, while the C peoples' will go down. There are also various questions throughout the game that you will be asked, and your answer will not have any direct impact on the game. An example is in Chapter 2L, when you run into Leonard in Rime. He talks to you about killing the Duke, and he asks you how you feel about being the new leader. If you say that it is your destiny, then some of the L peoples' (such as Presance) Loyalty will go up. If you pick the other choice, that you are a soldier, not a leader, then no one's loyalty will go up--some might even go down.

A way to decrease someone's Loyalty meter is by killing them in battle yourself, and then using Necro on them. For some reason, they don't like the idea of being resurrected as the undead...

A way to increase someone's Loyalty meter is by leveling them up in real, non-training battles. Maybe they become more loyal because they feel like they are making a difference in the real battle. All I know is that I brought a Level 1 Pumpkin Head (Alignment C) into a battle and trained him so that he was up to level. At the beginning, he said They don't have any particular complaints but they are not enthusiastic about joining the military, and by Level 10 he was saying Not only do they agree with your ideals, they have accepted you as a leader. I reset and tried leveling the Pumpkin Head up in Training, and his Loyalty didn't increase at all.

By now, I'm sure that you know that each character in your army has a different level of Loyalty towards you; however, what you may not know is that each race has its own level of Loyalty towards you as well! This is captured in the "Chaos Frame" that you have towards each race--while there's no way to determine your exact "rating" with each race, you can check the general level by going to a shop and trying to recruit a Soldier or Amazon of the race whose Chaos Frame you would like to know. You don't actually have to recruit them, but check their Loyalty towards you--it is a good indicator of how much you are liked by that particular race!

You can raise your Chaos Frame with a particular race as follows:

• Avoid killing enemies that are of that race. In battles with enemy leaders, just go for the leader and anyone who has special equipment. Ideally, you could recruit the enemies with equipment that you want instead of killing them, but sometimes that is not possible in the heat of battle. At any rate, avoid killing enemies that are either Walstanian, Gargastan, or Bacrumese--Indistinct enemies are okay, and so are the Roslolians (they have a Chaos Frame towards you, but you never have any way of measuring it, and their opinion doesn't really matter anyway).
   
• Level up a character of that race in a non-training battle. By doing this, you are not only increasing that individual character's Loyalty, you are increasing his race's Loyalty (with a certain probability).
   
• Watch what you say. In certain situations, you will be asked a question and given a set of possible responses. Think carefully before you choose one of them! The most prevalent decision of this kind is the decision of whether or not to follow Duke Ronway's orders at the end of Chapter One. If you do, your Law-Aligned characters may gain Loyalty towards you, but your Chaos-Aligned characters will lose Loyalty towards you, and your Chaos Frame with the Walstanians and the Gargastans will take a notable blow. Therefore, you've got to work a bit harder to raise your Chaos Frames in the Law Route than in the others!

Forcas: I'm sure you'd love to know why Chaos Frames matter at all, wouldn't you? Well, the only known point in the game where they matter is the very end, particularly if Kachua does not survive until the end. If Kachua dies, then you becomes King of Valeria, and it is at this point where the people's opinion of you really matters. If your Chaos Frame is low with a particular race, then odds are that you will be assassinated shortly after you begin your rule. However, if your Chaos Frame is high with the Walstanian, Gargastan, and Bacrumese races, then you don't have that problem. Of course you've got another problem, which is the future invasion of the Kingdom of Lodis. You find this out through an ending in Zenobia, where King Tristan and Beast Master Gilbert (of Ogre Battle: March of the Black Queen fame) discuss the misfortune of Valeria.

Hopefully this has been helpful in enhancing your understanding of Loyalty and Chaos Frames. At this time, I would like to credit www.ogre.org for the information about the numerical Loyalty Scale, the initial Loyalty information for each of the special characters, and for the information about the Chaos Frames. In case you wish to check it out, you can use the AltaVista Translator to translate the site from Japanese to English. Best of luck to you--I hope you have found this useful! If there's more that you wish to know, then I would recommend that you check out the Tips Section, as there are plenty of topics covered there.

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